专访 2012 年世界水草造景大赛银赏得主～陈松傧

问：
你是怎么获得灵感创作这个造景的？
答：
我是看了很多的风景照片，在里面发现许多相同的树林构图，所创造出来的。

Q:
How did you get inspired to create this scape?
A:
I viewed lots of scenic pictures, many of them were composed of woods, which inspired me for my creation.

问：
你为何会选这个标题？目的是什么？
答：
由于我的造景是模仿森林的景观，所以才会用「森之映象」这个标题。

Q:
Why did you choose this name? what was the purpose?
A:
Because I intended to imitate the landscape of a forest, therefore I titled my aquascape "Forest Impression".

问：
可以告诉我们你对于赤玉土的使用经验吗？
答：
赤玉土我已经用了 3 次做我比赛作品的素材，但由于我大约用一年就翻缸，所以只能以我个人使用上与大家分享。第一，最大优点是省钱，每包 10 公斤约台币 250-300 元。第二，我使用之前都会用筛子过筛，先把粉碎的赤玉土分离，所以崩解的程度不会很严重，跟以前使用黑土情形差不多，很令我满意。第三，:对水质的影响，我没有精密的测量工具，但是就使用经验上来看,降酸能力应该不强，CO2 一关起来 pH 值就提高，但是好像也不会提高水质硬度，初设缸后,水色也可以很快的变清澈。第四，旧的赤玉土可以拿去种盆景，环保又好用。

缺点：
赤玉土不含肥性，跟黑土不同，所以在施肥上就要多花心思。我在种植水草时，常发生许多需要由根吸收养分的水草，生长状态并不好，如后景的水草，就必须另外添加根肥来维持健康的状态。同时在液肥的添加也是要多费心，过多，很容易长藻；过少，许多水草的叶形与颜色就容易不健康。

我个人建议：
赤玉土是可以种水草，但是要把水草种得更漂亮健康，需要一些经验与平时的观察与维护。若是新手，没有种植水草经验的人，第一次还是用黑土，简单又方便、好维护。把水草种活了，也学会观察水草的外型与生长条件，再来使用赤玉土，比较不容易失败，对种水草也会更有兴趣，也玩得比较久。

Q:
Could you tell us about your experience on using Akadama as substrate?
A:
I have used Akadama as substrates for 3 times in my entries. Because I tore down the tank in about one year, so my experiences were limited, but I would like to share them with the readers. Firstly, Akadama is very cheap, each 10 Kg bag costs only 250-300 NTD (less than 10 USD) in Taiwan. Secondly, I used kitchen sieve to rinse the Akadama, and the rinsed Akadama was hard to crumble, just like Aqua Soil, and I was satisfied with the results. Thirdly, the effects on water chemistry. I did not have expensive test kits, but I found that Akadama was not good at lowering pH, when the injection of CO2 stopped, the pH raised dramatically. However GH seemed not to rise. The water in the tank became crystal clear quickly after setup. Fourthly, the used Akadama might be used in bosai, and was environment friendly.

Disadvantages:
Akadama, unlike Aqua Soil, is a nutrient poor soil, so we have to consider thoroughly on fertilizing. Many of the plants I have ever grown uptake their nutrients mainly from the roots, I have to use root fertilizers to keep plants healthy, especially the plants on the back ground. Meanwhile, care must be taken when dosing the water column. To much fertilizer would cause the algae issue, while too little would be hard to keep plants healthy.

My advice:
Akadama could be used as the substrate, but you have to be experienced and it needs regular maintenance to keep plants healthy. Aqua Soil would be a better option for the newbies to grow their plants. When you have learned how to grow plants and have gained the knowledge of the plants, you may try to use Akadama as the substrate, then you will not get easily frustrated. The passion for aquarium plants will thus keep on.

问：
你是用哪些技术来分布并固定各种硬件的？
答：
大部分用棉绳来绑水草，少部分水草用 3 秒胶来黏在石头上。

Q:
Which techniques did you use to make the distribution and fixation of every kind of solids?
A:
Most of the plants were tied with cotton threads, some were fixed on the rocks with super glue gel.

问：
在设缸之前你有准备任何方式的草稿或绘图吗？
答：
有的，我会事先画好草图，再用电脑试着模拟水草的位置。

Q:
Have you prepared any kind of draft or drawing previous to set-up?
A:
Yes, I did a sketch first, then I used an image editor to help me arrange the plants.

问：
为了安置硬件和水草，你是否遵循着先前研究过的比例，或者在造景时只是很即兴或随着自己的直觉？
答：
我大部分会按照先前规划的草图与比例来布置硬件与水草，因为我的美学天分与空间感不足。并不是专业的设计师，所以事先的规画对我来说是很重要的。

Q:
To arrange the distribution of solids and plants, are you following any kind of previously studied proportion or simply you improvised as you work on the scape or followed your intuition?
A:
Generally I would follow the planed sketches and ratios to arrange the hardscapes and the plants, because I was not good at aesthetics and spacial perception and processing. I was not a professional designer, so planning was essential to me.

问：
你在设缸的前几周如何添加营养？
答：
刚设缸时,我通常不会添加任何营养，我会观察水草的状态后再来添加，添加的时间与用量，并没有固定。我都使用自己调配 NPK 液肥，让我省下很多钱。

Q:
How do you add nutrients in the first weeks of set-up? 
A:
I did not add any nutrients at the beginning. I would observe the growth of the plants and decided the timing and dosage for the nutrients, not on a regular basis. I dosed with a DIY NPK solution, it saved me a lot of money.

问：
你会测量哪些水质？
答：
pH、KH 和 GH。

Q:
With wich parameters of water do you like to work? 
A:
I tested pH, KH and GH.

问：
你在水族缸的照明如何？
答：
我这次用了 3 盏灯来照明,T8:40w*2 有两盏，T5:39w*2有一盏，每天 8 小时。

Q:
How much light did you put on the aquarium?
A:
I used 4xT8 40W and 2xT5 39W, daily for 8 hours.

问：
你这个设缸为何会选择这些动物？
答：
我这次主角特别挑选红莲灯，想利用他身上的红色与蓝色，让全部是绿色的水草中更凸出。

Q:
Why you choose this fauna for this set-up? 
A:
The main critter in this aquascape was Paracheirodon simulans, the shining red and blue colors looked striking among the green plants.

问：
你遇过藻类吗？你认为为何会发生？
答：
我有刚毛藻，可能是买进新水草时夹带进入的。而且藻类也是生态的一部分，只要不会破坏水草的生长与造景美观，我认为都是正常的。

Q:
Did you get any algae in any moment? Why you think it happened? How did you eliminate it?
A:
The only algae that I experienced with this aquascape was  Chladophora, it probably came along with the plants at the set-up. Algae belong to parts the ecosystem, I would accept them, if only they are not growing on the plants and annoying the layouts.

问：
你在第一次进行修剪时，有任何的偏好作法吗？
答：
我并没有特别做法，我依照当时所规划的草图，将长太多的部分来修剪。

Q:
Do you have any preference for the first “pruning”?
A:
Not really. I trimmed the plants according to the planned sketches.

问：
你如何修剪水草?
答：
今年我特别购买一只ADA的波浪剪刀，省力与准确,对我在修剪
细微的莫斯很有帮助。

Q:
How you do the pruning?
A:
I bought a Pro-Scissors Wave of ADA goods this year. It helped me a lot at detailed trimming, especially for pruning Java moss.

问：
你觉得这个水族造景最困难的工作是什么？
答：
找寻不同粗细的木头素材是最困难的，因我已经规划好构图，但是很难找到适合的素材，为了素材我找了许多水族馆。

Q:
What was the most difficult tasks in this aquascaping?
A:
It was hard to find woods with different thicknesses, because I had planned the sketch. I visited many local fish stores to seek appropriate materials.

问：
在最初步骤的任何时刻中，如果觉得结果不好，会不会移除硬件？
答：
会。毕竟我只是业余的水草爱好者，很难一次到位，初期修正对我而言是很有帮助的，而在多次的修正中慢慢累积经验。

Q:
In any moment in the initial steps you moved the solids as you were not convinced with the result? 
A:
Yes. After all I was only an amateur aquascaper, not capable of getting everything done at a time. The adjustments in the early stages helped me a lot, I became more experienced in the revision process.

问：
你会对设缸做定期拍照追踪吗？摄影对你能否对水族缸发展能否有清晰印象有帮助吗？
答：
有的，我每 2 周会拍照一次，再到电脑上观察，对整体构图帮助很大。

Q:
Have you done a regular photo-follow-up of the set-up? Do photography help you to have a clearer image of the development of the aquarium?
A:
Yes, I took pictures every 2 weeks, and viewed them on the computer. It was helpful to fine-tune the layout.

问：
对于最后的完成图，你用的是哪种照相器材和技术？
答：
我使用一台 CANON 450D 单眼相机，与18-55 的标准镜头，同时我自己 DIY 灯箱，用两盏棚灯来拍照。

Q:
What kind of photographic material and technique you used for the finish picture? 
A:
I used a Cannon 450D DSLR camera with 18-55 mm lens,  two studio lamps and a DIY softbox.

问：
你会为了最后完成图增加或移除观赏鱼吗？
答：
不会，因为这于缸平时就放在我家营业的场所，每天都会有人来观赏，观赏鱼更是观赏的重点，所以我只要水草稳定后就会放鱼，增添平时观赏的乐趣。

Q:
Have you added or removed any fish for the final picture?
A:
No, the tank was placed on my business office, where a lot of people viewed the tank every day, and the ornamental fish were always the main focus. I added fish as soon as the plants were growing healthy, because the fish are full of fun. 

问：
一旦完成造景并拍摄最终照片了，你觉得在设缸时有哪些可以改进的吗？
答：
没有，因为我已经准备好才拍照。

Q:
Once you finished the scape and after the final picture, what do you think could be improved on the set-up?
A:
No, because I took the picture after the aquascape was well prepared.

问：
在这个造景上你有用过任何 Photoshop 的技巧吗？你认为影像编辑在比赛中是可以接受的吗？如果有的话，你的修正程度如何？
答：
没有。影像编辑不能无中生有，所以我不接受。我只用CANON 附的软件来做裁切与曝光亮度，档案大小的调整。

Q:
Have you used any kind of Photoshop for this scape? Do you think image edition should be acceptable in the contests? Which limits would you fix for this, if any?
A:
No. No object should be added in the image, I don't think that modified pictures are acceptable. I used the software of the Cannon camera to cut the image, to tune the brightness, and to resize the picture.

问：
如果我们分析最近几次比赛的结果和水族造景的趋势。
你认为是否错失了真正＂自然风水族造景＂的本质？
答：
这个问题见仁见智，水族缸本身就是一个人造的环境，自然风水族造景，也会因不同国家的风俗民情而有所不同，所以我认为只要水草缸里面的与鱼和水草生态完整健康， 没有刻意人工的东西添加在造景中,新的创意与模仿大自然的造景都是可以接受的。

Q:
If we analyze the results of recent competitions and the trend of the aquascapes. Do not you think they were missing the essence of authentic "Nature Aquarium"?
A:
It depends. An aquarium itself is an artificial environment, the concept of natural style aquascapings varies due to different cultural backgrounds. In my opinion, if both the critters and the plants in the planted tanks remain healthy, and no figures or statues are added to the aquascapes, either innovations or mimicking landscapes are acceptable.

问：
我很荣幸有机会访问你，
你还有想补充的吗？
答：
其实我接触水草大概有15年以上了，刚开始，有关水草资讯很少，我为了要把水草种好，我一下班就到水族馆报到，跟老板与同好在泡茶聊天中学习水草的知识,把水草种漂亮健康，当年与我一起玩水草的老板与同好，后来都离开水族界，我也就一直停留在种水草的阶段，直到我开始接触互联网，让我看到了 ADA 造景比赛的照片，也看到世界各国对水草造景的日新月异，才让我重新对水草造景有新的认识与目标。

于是我从 2008 年正式参加 ADA 的造景比赛（IAPLC），当时的作品很生疏，但是这几年参加比赛的过程，让我对水草造景的经验不断累积，直到今年获得到 ADA 的银赏，与美国 AGA的荣誉奖。

感谢我家人对我这项兴趣的支持与包容，才能让我持续在在水族造景上努力，同时也感谢台湾水舞团队的前辈，对我在在水草造景上的指导与协助，谢谢他们。

Q:
It was a pleasure for me to have the chance to interview you, would you like to add anything else?
A:
I have been growing aquatic plants for more than 15 years. At the beginning, the information of aquatic plants were so lacking, I frequented the local fish stores after work, in order to learn how to grow plants from the owners of the local fish stores and also from other hobbyists. Unfortunately, most of them abandoned this hobby later, and my knowledge of aquatic plants thus stagnated. Until one day as I searched the internet, I saw some pictures of IAPLC entries, and became aware of the rapid changes in the aquascapings all over the world, I reconsidered the aquascapes and found my goals.

I have participated the IAPLC since 2008, but I was a newbie at that time. As my experience increased, I eventually won the silver prize of the IAPLC 2012 and the honorable mention of the 2012 AGA aquascaping contest.

I'd like to thank my family for their support and tolerance, thus I could keep working on aquascapes. I am extremely grateful to the members of Taiwan Aquatic Dancing Club for the valuable assistance. Thank you all.